tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30512717.post115735181440189896..comments2024-03-05T14:07:28.062-08:00Comments on Ask Sister Mary Martha: Sister Mary Marthahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00580244097177195453noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30512717.post-69852079603491226742010-01-15T17:34:51.696-08:002010-01-15T17:34:51.696-08:00The Church is founded, built and sustained on trus...The Church is founded, built and sustained on trust. Since none of you, presumably, actually met Mother Terese (let alone, following her around and reading her thoughts) you have two options: 1) Believe Hitchens et al and the general diatribe 2) Believe the Catholic Church's view of her. Your choice will certainly have ramifications for you life and your eternal destination. Kindest Regards. Sum RomanusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30512717.post-1157508322041050082006-09-05T19:05:00.000-07:002006-09-05T19:05:00.000-07:00Okay, re the matter of other beliefs according to ...Okay, re the matter of other beliefs according to Orthodox Catholicism: <BR/>Grab a copy of the Catechism. (I'm using the 1994 ed. imprimatur then-cardinal Ratziger, in case some numbers have changed.) <BR/>Read nos. 836-848, which includes the headers:<BR/> <I>Who belongs to the Catholic Church?<BR/> The Church and non-Christians<BR/> 'Outside the Church There is No Salvation.'</I><BR/><BR/>Then if you want to argue orthodoxy, take it up with His Holiness.CMinorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07305306030099439903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30512717.post-1157503059132098032006-09-05T17:37:00.000-07:002006-09-05T17:37:00.000-07:00Fine--I'll concede you the Gandhi point, though it...Fine--I'll concede you the Gandhi point, though it took me some digging to get anything that even resembled what you were describing (and that didn'include the enemas.) I still find your actions pretty trollish, though--this is, after all, a lighthearted blog--and I'm inclined to think you're not concealing your personal views as well as you think. <BR/><BR/>I also think you have Orthodox Catholicism confused with Fundamentalist Catholicism, but that's just me. Maybe Sister can shed some light on this matter--I'm off to check the catechism!CMinorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07305306030099439903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30512717.post-1157463935282120242006-09-05T06:45:00.000-07:002006-09-05T06:45:00.000-07:00To answer your question, yes, appreciating other f...To answer your question, yes, appreciating other faiths is a bad thing (if you are a follower of Orthodox Catholicism.) <BR/><BR/>The church leaders who will inevitably decide whether Teresa should become sainted, by definition, must be Orthodox. Even the slightest hint that Tesesa implied that the Catholic Church is not the one and only true Church should have automatically disqualified her from official beatification. This is the rule.<BR/><BR/>There is unfortunately no evidence that can be given to definitively prove the thoughts and motivations of another human being. All we can do is look at quotes and facts (which I have provided) and come to our own conclusions. In fact, though I may have occasionally slipped, I have been pretty careful about revealing my own actual thoughts on the subject. <BR/><BR/>On to Gandhi.<BR/>If you consider the practice of self-control to include, not only sleeping with multiple nude, young girls, but also giving and receiving daily enemas and massages to and from them, then yes, Gandhi practiced self control. While there is no proof that he was actually having sexual intercourse with these teenagers (some younger than 15,) it can certainly be assumed that he was obtaining some sort of gratification from the experience. I'll advise you to take your own suggestion and "look it up."Christopher Clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17740012744429265381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30512717.post-1157460706282325532006-09-05T05:51:00.000-07:002006-09-05T05:51:00.000-07:00And appreciating the beauty and truth in other fai...And appreciating the beauty and truth in other faiths is a bad thing?! Get some consistency, Christopher!<BR/>Gandhi advocated birth control through self-control, and practiced self-control himself (look it up.) And while we're on the subject of -trols, I think I smell one. <BR/><BR/>Toodles, Chris--come back with evidence instead of insinuation. Mother's been scrutinized nine ways to Sunday; Hitchens had his day in the Vatican, and I think you know it!CMinorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07305306030099439903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30512717.post-1157445690800116622006-09-05T01:41:00.000-07:002006-09-05T01:41:00.000-07:00If my house were made of glass, I suspect it would...If my house were made of glass, I suspect it would still be standing. As usual, I haven't thrown any stones. I've merely reported on the stones that have been thrown by Hitchens.<BR/><BR/>From the other camp, the Orthodox Christians, comes even more doubts about Mother Teresa's chance at sainthood. It seems that Teresa. and her protege Sister Nirmala, have both been quoted suggesting that Christianity is not the one true faith.<BR/><BR/>“I’ve always said we should help a Hindu become a better Hindu, a Muslim become a better Muslim, a Catholic become a better Catholic.” -Mother Teresa<BR/><BR/>“Some call Him Ishwar, some call Him Allah, some simply God, but we have to acknowledge that it is He who made us for greater things: to love and be loved. What matters is that we love. We cannot love without prayer, and so whatever religion we are, we must pray together.” -Mother Teresa<BR/><BR/>"Shiva became my favourite when I learned that he was not loved very much because of his very ugly appearance." -Sister Nirmala<BR/><BR/>“You say a prayer in your religion, and I will say a prayer as I know it. Together we will say this prayer and it will be something beautiful for God.” -Mother Teresa<BR/><BR/>"I cherish within me the most beautiful values of Hinduism. I come from that religion, from that culture. My roots are there and I cannot, I must not, forget them. I believe that there is partial truth in the other religions, and therefore also in Hinduism." -Sister NirmalaChristopher Clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17740012744429265381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30512717.post-1157409733852681412006-09-04T15:42:00.000-07:002006-09-04T15:42:00.000-07:00alright for you, Christopher. I hope your house is...alright for you, Christopher. I hope your house isn't made of glass. You can go home to it whenever you are finally done standing in the corner.<BR/>sister mary marthaSister Mary Marthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00580244097177195453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30512717.post-1157400172962812672006-09-04T13:02:00.000-07:002006-09-04T13:02:00.000-07:00I would sugeest that the bulk of the complaints ar...I would sugeest that the bulk of the complaints are these:<BR/><BR/>---Teresa believed that misery brought us closer to Jesus, and was therefore, beautiful.<BR/>---She accepted money from known criminals and despots. There is no evidence that she used that money to actually alieve suffering.<BR/>---Her hospices were really nothing more than places for sick people to suffer and die.<BR/>---She ignored modern medicine practices for others, yet used them herself.<BR/>---She is reported to have performed baptisms on nonbeleivers against their will.<BR/><BR/>I'd also suggest doing some research on Ghandi before using him as a tentpole. The actual man may not live up to the myth. Among other moral ambiguities, he, like Teresa, forbade modern medical treatment for those around him, yet checked into the world's best clinics when he, himself, became ill.Christopher Clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17740012744429265381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30512717.post-1157387134465251932006-09-04T09:25:00.000-07:002006-09-04T09:25:00.000-07:00It appears to me that while the articles occasiona...It appears to me that while the articles occasionally made complaints about areas in which Mother might not have been practicing good medicine, the bulk of the complaints come down to a handful of standards every time: She opposed abortion, contraception and population control (big deal! so did Gandhi!)and made the splendid cosmopolitan city of Calcutta look bad. (boo-hoo!) Kind of highlights what these folks' agenda was, and renders questionable other allegations.CMinorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07305306030099439903noreply@blogger.com